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: Alien Implants In The News Again
: Dr. Roger Leir Discusses Latest Findings
: Let's Talk Paranormal
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: Dateline: Friday, February 4, 2005
: By: TRACIE AUSTIN-PETERS
: By: Host of Let's Talk Paranormal
: The following is a transcript from the Los Angeles-based TV talk Show,
: "Let’s Talk…Paranormal."
: The guest – Dr. Roger Leir – has extensively researched the
: controversial area of so-called "alien implants" and is
: interviewed by award-winning Show Host & Executive Producer,
: Tracie Austin-Peters.
: Let's Talk Paranormal - LTP
: Dr. Roger Leir - DRL
: LTP: My guest this evening, Dr. Roger Leir, is known as a true pioneer
: in the field of Ufology, and he’s also highly respected in many
: countries around the world for the magnificent work he does. I’m also
: very happy to say that he’s a personal, dear friend of mine. Now, I
: know what you’re going to say: is this man for real? And I have to
: say: yes he is. And are the implants for real, Roger?
: DRL: They certainly are, Tracie.
: LTP: Tell me a little bit more about them. How did you get involved with
: all of this?
: DRL: Well, most of the things in my life have been one synchronistic
: event after the other, and I became interested in the field of
: Ufology many, many years ago, even as a child. But if someone had
: told me in my younger days that I would be removing objects suspected
: of being alien implants, I’d have told them they are nuts. But,
: anyway, the first case we did was August 19th of 1995. We did two
: cases of individuals who had objects in their bodies, who were
: represented by X-Ray evidence, and they were touted to be alien
: implants. And I did the surgery really to prove that this was
: nonsense.
: LTP: Now, wait a minute…did these people come to you with symptoms in
: their bodies? You know: were they having pain?
: DRL: The first two people who came to me, Tracie, were referred by
: someone else who was doing some research in the alien abduction
: field, and he was the one who showed me the X-Rays, and had touted
: them as being alien implants, and I thought this was utter nonsense.
: So I challenged him by simply saying, “Well why don’t you take them
: out and we’ll see what they are?” and he said, “Well, I think that
: the person would have that done, but unfortunately she doesn’t have
: any money, and she doesn’t have any medical insurance.” And I said,
: “Well, where does she live?” He said, “She lives in Texas,” and I
: said, “Well, I’ll tell you what: you get her to California, and I’ll
: do the surgery with no charge.” He said, “You really mean that?” and
: I said: “Yes I do.” So that’s how the initial contact was made, and
: then over the next couple of weeks we had several telephone
: conversations, and he came up with another individual who had an
: object in the back of his hand, and I asked him to send me the X-Rays
: so that our radiologist could look at it. He did, and I asked a
: general surgeon friend of mine if he would be willing to do this
: case. So, anyway, on August 19th we did these few cases.
: LTP: So, the question is: how do these foreign objects get inside
: someone’s body that apparently has no entry?
: DRL: Yeah, that was common to all the 10 surgeries we did: there was no
: entry wound, and there was nothing out of place. We looked high and
: wide with magnification for a scar or some evidence where this went
: in, and we couldn’t find anything. But, if you have a technology
: which is advanced enough to get here from somewhere else or through
: somewhere else…because we don’t really know whether these are
: extraterrestrials, or inter dimensional, or time travelers or all the
: above…so if you have that kind of technology then perhaps you have
: the ability to enter into a living body and put something in, or take
: something out without physically interrupting the molecular structure
: of the skin or other tissues.
: LTP: So, why are these objects there? What is the purpose, do you think?
: DRL: Well, after considering this over a number of years, Tracie, I’ve
: come to the conclusion that these objects are there for
: genetic-monitoring purposes. I believe that for thousands of years
: the human race has been genetically manipulated. And I did a study
: recently of seventeen functional growth characteristics in children
: and compared them over a forty year period, 1947 to 1987, and found
: that there was a sixteen to eighty percent accelerated change, and
: that is a lot for that short period of time. Now, why is this
: happening? Is it evolution? I think not, not for that short period of
: forty years. The next biggest area, then, has to be the environment.
: So, we look at all the environmental factors, depletion of the ozone
: layer, bombardment with more cosmic rays and other high-energy
: particles: could that do it? Is it television? Is it the food? Is it
: pollution of the atmosphere? Well, in the first place, if you look at
: these on a geographical level, these changes are worldwide; so we
: have a myriad of different changes that are going on in the
: environment, but yet these statistics remain the same. So if the
: child survives, then these statistics become true. So, I rule out
: environment, and if you rule out environment, and you rule out
: evolution, this only leads to two other possibilities. Is it an act
: of God? And if you’re satisfied with that, yes, it’s an act of God.
: And if you’re not satisfied with that - if you have more of an
: inquisitive mind – then the only other possibility is that the human
: race is being genetically manipulated; and which takes us back to why
: have an implant in the human body. There have been other theories
: that have been put forth, like devices so that they can track the
: individual - which was recently seen in Steven Spielberg’s “Taken.”
: Or are they devices for measuring changing chemicals with pollution
: in our bodies? Now, I don’t think it’s either one of those. I think
: that it has to do with monitoring
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: genetics.
: LTP: Really? What did you think when you first removed these objects?
: Did you think: “What do I have here?” Because it’s obviously
: undergone tests. What are these things made of?
: DRL: Yes, well, you’re more than inquisitive when you go into someone’s
: body, and I’ve been doing this surgery on the foot for thirty-seven
: years. During that time, I’ve removed a lot of things…Coral, paper,
: hair; you name it, I’ve taken it out of the foot. But when you go in
: and you go into a place and there’s no scarification, and then you
: remove a “T” shaped object that’s wrapped in this very strange,
: tight-clinging, glove-like membrane, gray in color, then you take a
: surgical blade and you try to cut through it and it won’t cut, hey,
: this is different. This is something other than what we remove. Then,
: of course, we went to the other side of the toe and removed another
: object which was a little “cantaloupe seed” shaped object covered in
: this strange membrane, and we tried to cut through that one and it
: wouldn’t cut through. And then we went on to do a gentleman and
: removed an object from the back of his hand, and it turns out to be
: exactly like the one we removed from the lady. That’s mind-boggling
: in itself. And it was covered with the same strange, gray,
: tight-fighting, well-organized membrane.
: LTP: My goodness.
: DRL: And, you can’t cut through it with a surgical blade.
: LTP: So, how many implant removals have you done to date?
: DRL: Well, to date we’ve done ten surgeries, which have produced eleven
: objects, and one of these turned out to be an ordinary piece of
: bottle glass. But when I say “ordinary” I should explain it’s an
: expensive piece of bottle glass. Maybe it wasn’t expensive when the
: company made it, but it was expensive to find out what it was. It had
: some interesting properties, and one was that it contained sulphur,
: and most glass does not contain sulphur. So we tracked this to one
: batch of glass of medicinal bottles, and that’s what came out of this
: lady’s foot. Now, she was an abductee; so it was just that this
: object was working it’s way out and was not an implant. But the
: others have all been found by scientific laboratories to be very,
: very interesting.
: LTP: And I believe from your research that so many of your objects have
: been found on the left side of the body; and then the more recent
: surgery was on the right side of the body. Why do you think that is
: the case?
: DRL: Well, I think that proves that if you’re going to do a scientific
: study that you shouldn’t jump to conclusions. Yes, we did have nine
: objects that came out of the left side, and number ten came out of
: the right side. So perhaps if we do another ten or another hundred,
: we’ll have a greater statistic, and it’ll be a lot more accurate.
: LTP: What do the patient’s say once you remove these objects? I mean:
: are they totally bewildered?
: DRL: Well, you’ve got to remember that part of the criteria and
: protocols that A&S Research have to set up to do the scientific
: studies, is that - preliminarily - the individual has to have two
: things going for them. They have to have some exposure to the UFO
: phenomena, and number two: we do not like individuals to have
: undergone regressive hypnosis prior to the surgery. So whatever they
: have as a conscious memory has to serve time into the area of
: research and how do they feel. We have two that were examined by our
: psychological team, and two that said something that was very
: interesting: that after removal of these objects they had a new found
: feeling of freedom. Now, you can ask me what that means. Well to this
: day I don’t have a clue, but it’s interesting that two people say the
: same thing.
: If this extract from Tracie Austin-Peters’ interview with Dr. Roger Leir
: intrigued you, you can find more about Tracie’s show, her work and
: research by contacting her at: www.letstalkparanormal.com or at:
: Tracie Austin-Peters, Executive Producer / Host For Let's
: Talk...Paranormal, PO Box 800902, Santa Clarita, CA 91380-0902.
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